Aimpoint PRO Red Dot Reflex Sight with QRP2 Mount and Spacer - 2 MOA - 12841

EDIT: Updated with more info, and fixed some content to give better explanations.With this Aimpoint PRO you truly do "get more than you pay for." I switched to it from an Eotech 512.A65 because I hated the 65MOA ring on the Eotech. It seemed to always cause problems with my vision for both eyes open shooting. I also found that the Eotech was a little low for me when mounted straight to the top rail. I may have needed a riser for it, but the fact that I was not having much luck with the reticle and the height issue was not really worth me getting a riser to see if that might help. To me the reticle being compatible with your eye, shooting style and brain is the most important part of the optic.When you get this it is simply packaged in a plain white cardboard box. No fancy tupperware or pelican case for it. Simply a plain white box with some stickers on it. Inside it some run of the mill foam. So why just a box? Well this was designed to be purchased and used by police departments. When Aimpoint first introduced them they were only available for purchase by law enforcement. Most police departments, at least the ones I have been associated with, could care less what it comes it, they just want a product that works. The cardboard box also helps to keep the overall cost of the product down. The boxes are literally meant to be tossed (or recycled if thats how you swing) when the optic is taken out and mounted. Also inside the box is an allen wrench for taking the riser off, shorter screws for using without the riser installed and one 1/3N-Cell battery.First impressions of the mount and optic together is "that is one HUGE knob..." It is much bigger than it look in the pictures, and it sticks out a fair amount. The riser actually looks nice, and of course being the gadget kind of guy I am I had to take it off to see how it would look without it in place. You quickly see that you need the riser, or you will end up with a sore neck and cheek. The torque limiting mount is actually very nice. In the past I have seen quite a few top rails that have been permanently damaged by over tightening rail attachments. Once you click it three times it is set, and very secure. I tend to give it a click or two whenever I pick up my rifle or get out to the range just to make sure that it is good and tight. The knob is low enough that it does not interfere with your vision, and I have yet to have it get in the way when shooting. Over all the mount is very well made and a wonderfully innovative design. One thing that I did do was when I reinstalled the riser after experimenting, I put some blue (242) Loc-Tite on the screws, just to ensure that the screws were not able to back out on their own. While I do not foresee this as an issue, one can never be too careful with something used as a defensive tool. I have removed this mount and optic several times to test the return to zero, and each time I have not had any shift in my zero. Something to note though that is you will need to return the optic to the same rail slot in order to maintain zero, moving the optic on your rail will result in the shift. If you plan to re-index the optic on your rail you will want to go back and zero your rifle and optic again.Pre-installed on the optic are lens covers and a battery and turret cap keeper. The lens covers are of decent quality, and appear to be of the same type as Butler Creek, but appear to be better made. The cover that comes on the rear is clear and the front cover is black. While you can get two clear covers, the combination of the clear and black will work for a shooter that leaves both eyes open. Even though you cannot see through the optic, the dot will still superimpose onto your vision and you can still use the red dot. This can be used in a panic situation where you have your rifle, and have not flipped the front cap. One thing that I did find though is that when shooting in this way that my shots were hitting about 1" low at 25 yards. While not a huge point of impact change, if you are shooting farther that will open all the way up to 4" low at 100 yards. In a CQB situation, 1" low is not going to make a huge difference, and will still affect the desired outcome on a torso sized target. But it is something that you want to practice and find out how much of a change in impact you will get. The cap keeper that comes with the optic is nice rubber, and will hold the caps for you. The keeper connects the battery cover and both of the adjustment turret covers. So if you are at the range and remove your adjustment turret caps they will stay attached to the optic. This is a nice feature so that you do not lose your caps. I have lost a fair share of turret caps in the past just by setting them down and then leaving without them.The adjustment turrets are 1/2MOA per click. The clicks were a little weak, but when I switched from a screw driver to a coin I was able to feel them a lot better. This is probably because the clicks transfer through the metal coin better than through the plastic handle of a screw driver. So I just use a coin now to make any adjustments and any of the common coins you will find in your pocket will work.There are a total of 10 brightness settings on this optic. While four of them are for night vision devices, the other six are visible without night vision. I do find that only the last three settings are actually visible, even in complete darkness. So there is three settings that seem to be lost in limbo, they are too bright for night vision and not bright enough to be seen without night vision. I tend to use the settings at the 8 and 9 position. With this dot I have found that you want to keep the brightness as low as you can for your situation because the brighter the dot, the more it bleeds in the dark. Also of no real use if the brightest setting, or the 10 setting. It is so bright that the dot bleeds, and it actually illuminates the outside edge of the optic around the glass.I currently have mine sighted in at 25yds for CQB/Home defense work, but have shot it out to 300yds and was consistently hitting a 4MOA gong without any problems. The best way to find a good zero for yourself is to find the furthest you plan to shoot. Once you have that information you can plug your data into a ballistic calculator and find out where the bullet will cross your line of sight. So if you want to zero to 300 yards the round you fire round will cross your line of sight at 36yds and then arc back to the point of aim at 300yds. This gives you both a close in zero and a ranged zero if you were ever to need both. This typically called a battle zero, or BZO.One feature that really helped to sell me on the Aimpoint PRO was that it is waterproof to 150ft (5.5ATA for the diver types). While I do not see myself taking my rifle SCUBA diving anytime soon, the waterproof nature of this optic is a nice feature. I am in the Pacific Northwest where it tends to rain most of the year, so range time might include being out in the rain. Unfortunately that is just a fact of life here. It is a great comfort to know that in a hard rain that my optic will not be damaged and will continue to function as designed. Another positive to it being waterproof is that if it gets dirty, dusty or otherwise fouled it can be removed from your rifle and rinsed off in the sink. I have done this once after training sessions where I was running and moving around a muddy range all day. It was a great relief to know that I could wash it off, let it dry and oil everything down.This is truly a great optic for the price. Typically they can be had for around $400 depending on where you order one from. You can find them used in the $300 range. What you get with this optic is the same high end Aimpoint quality, battery life and simplicity for a smaller price tag. While there are some differences in the battery life between the Aimpoint PRO and the CompM3, they are not really worth the extra money that you end up spending in my opinion. A battery life of 30,000 hours is pretty good and translates out to 3.7 years. The CompM3 has a battery life of 50,000 hours, or 6.2 years. When a new battery will run you $6, I couldn't justify the added expense.Whether you are looking for a new optic with less clutter, or something with amazing battery life this optic is amazing for the price. You cannot go wrong with this as a red dot sight. It functions well, is reliable and holds a zero. Don't be fooled by the price tag, this is a solid optic that will stad up every bit as good as any other Aimpoint out there.

First off, this is my first RDS. I have done a bit of research over the last few weeks and felt like the AIMPOINT PRO was the best option for me when it came to my needs, and my budget. This optic is now mounted on my Colt LE6920, and is used for occasional range shooting, as well as HD. I knew that I wanted a quality optic, so I narrowed it down to 3 companies, EOTech, Trijicon and of course AIMPOINT. Trijicon has some very nice optics, but a bit out of my budget range. The EOTech's are quite nice, but between the battery life, as well as the recent report of them not fairing well in lower temperatures, I decided to focus more on AIMPOINT. The T1 with a LaRue QD mount was very nice, but also a bit more than I wanted to spend. The PRO seems to offer the same quality, albeit in a slightly larger/heavier package, but at a fraction of the cost. So, I watched the prices at a few sites, and then as I expected, during the recent holiday's the PRO was a bit less expensive. Amazon had the best price for me (considering Prime). So, I placed my order. Two days later it was in my hands!Immediately, I noticed it was a bit different than about 95% of the photos on the web of the PRO, however, as of the beginning of 2015, some changes were made. The newer version does not include the bra strap that connected the windage, battery and elevation caps. Instead, the windage and elevation caps each have their own keeper straps, while the battery cap has none. As well, the print on the actual optic is a bit different. The number "12841" is no longer printed on the optic, and instead just "Patrol Rifle Optic" with the serial number is printed below it. Other than this, the optic appears to be the same as before, including the mount. Also included in the box was the laminated instruction booklet, a service reminder sticker, and a single Duracell DL1/3N battery.Installing the battery was a cinch (just don't lose the cap!), and of course mounting the optic to my rail was a snap. I opted to put it as far forward as possible (actually 1 notch back than what is in the photos). Using the included mount, securing the optic on the rail was very easy, as well as removing it. I like this mount, and while a LaRue would be nice, I think I am going to be quite happy with this one, despite the large knob (which really doesn't seem to get in the way so far). I also like the caps that cover the elevation and windage adjustments. Quite easy to tighten or loosen with just my fingers, and they are sealed so water will not enter (assuming I tighten the covers down). I think I like this design better than what I was expecting with the older style.Just as expected, the settings work great. I find that 7 or 8 is a better setting for me personally in lighted areas. 9 is ok, with very little feedback in the tube, while 10 has an enormous amount of bleeding going on all around the optic. Of course, the first 4 settings are NV compatible, so they are useless to me at this point. Glad they are there though. As for the dot, it is nice, however, I was expecting a perfect circle. This dot is not that. Could be the optic, or more likely my personal vision. To me it looks like a simple laser dot, that is mostly round, with a couple of small streaks. All in all, I am not disappointed with the dot and at this point, have no reason not to want to keep it as is. I like it a lot!I also found the optic very easy to use, and seemingly quite fast to get on target with. Even more so, I am blown away at how I really can leave the front cover closed, yet with both eyes open, be able to both see the target, and put the red dot on it! This is just amazing... Love it.So while I have only had it for 24 hours, I am very pleased with it. I got it for $377 here on Amazon (Prime), and feel the money was well spent. After reading the many reviews, as well as putting my own hands on the optic, I don't feel like I made a bad decision at all.And to top it all off, their CS is outstanding! To be sure, I sent these same photo's, along with the serial number to AIMPOINT last night, via email, to verify this was the real deal and not a knock off (I am quite leery of knock offs, especially here on Amazon). Rather than a follow up email, I actually got a phone call from one of the reps today to let me know that this was the real deal, 100% AIMPOINT PRO! That was music to my ears, both in the fact that they took the time to actually contact me in person, as well as to know without doubt that mine in particular is real.At this point, the AIMPOINT PRO gets a very solid 5 star rating from me. Saying that though, this is still brand new, and mine in particular is untested by me. After some time I will update this with some more info and adjust as needed. Until then, if you are thinking about the PRO, go for it! I am certainly glad I did!UPDATE: 12/5/2015I took my AR out today to zero in the PRO. Unfortunately, mine was pretty bad off out of the box. It took me about 10 rounds to figure out where I was as I was not even on paper. Eventually though, I made it on paper, and after another 30 or so rounds, I was pretty happy with the results. I was shooting from 25 yards, using an "Adjusted 25 yard target for a 50 yard zero." As of right now, I am ok with the settings, however, I am not sure if I want a 50 yard zero for my needs. I am planning to get a Troy flip up rear sight around Christmas and will then have to go back out and zero the iron sights. At that time I may rezero the PRO for a simple 25 yard zero...Anyway, adjusting the PRO was very easy. I used a penny and a nickel, both seemed to work equally well. The clicks were distinct enough to feel and I was able to easily count them. As I said though, at first, I wasn't even on paper, which I was quite low. I bet I turned the elevation up about 25 or more clicks... I just wonder how much is left... If I do decide to go with a 25 yard zero, I will need to turn it up even more.I was shooting around 1 pm this afternoon, on a nice, clear, sunny day. I was actually shooting in the same direction as the sun, however, it was still high in the sky. I used the 8th setting and found it to be easily bright enough for me to see.Also, before leaving the house this morning, I noticed that there does seem to be some movement of the red dot who my head moves. I am a bit fuzzy on all of this, but as I understand it, this is parallax, and these RDS are supposedly parallax free. In some reading, it seems that nothing is truly parallax free, even these optics. I am not trying to knock it, but I am realizing that while it may be simple enough to raise the gun, put the red dot on it and shoot, there just may be a little more to it... However, I look forward to learning how to use it...So, until I get more time in, I will leave an additional pic of the groupings I was getting with it at 25 yards, keeping in mind, I was attempting zero at 50yds, which meant I aimed a little higher than where I intended to hit the target. (Also, mine are the shots in the middle, not the ones at the bottom... it was a used target).