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# Without You, There Is No Us: Undercover Among the Sons of North Korea's Elite

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## Customer Reviews

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    A promising beginning that fails to deliver.
  

*by J***C on Reviewed in the United States on June 8, 2017*

Ultimately, this book commits the cardinal sin (I'm not religious, but that term feels all too appropriate given the book's setting) of assuming the reader cares more about the author than about North Korea. Allow me to explain.Although the book labels itself as "A Memoir", Suki Kim has claimed in interviews that the "Memoir" description was an unwanted addition by her publisher. She asserts that her book is a piece of investigative journalism to be approached as such. However, few people familiar with investigative journalism would likely agree that the style and structure of this book fit that genre. It's very clearly a memoir in form, although certainly the manner in which she gathered her information qualifies as journalistic. She seems to have taken very detailed notes during her time there, despite apparently not having done much research in preparation for fitting in with evangelicals (for example, she doesn't know that communion usually occurs once a month, instead musing that it "took place only occasionally, for some reason"). Regardless, the book fails to present a remarkable example of either genre.Without You, There is No Us is written in a very personal voice that initially serves as an effective vehicle for the reader's identification with the author. Yet as the book progresses, the tone becomes increasingly melodramatic and self-pitying, even straying into self-indulgent melancholy (remember, she chose to go there and return for a second semester). In the beginning of the book, the personalization of the story adds depth, with her stories of how her family was affected by the Korean war. Her description of later immigrating to the US adds needed context to her later experiences in North Korea, although details of her adjustment to this new life are seriously lacking. Her experiences as a South Korean living in NK give her a few interesting insights, such as when she explains North Korea's "bastardization" of the Korean language, although she doesn't detail too many additional differences between the North and South Korean cultures. She instead generally writes from a very American viewpoint, particularly regarding her perception of her students, and often prefers to focus inward rather than on the people around her. This leads to some very one-dimensional characterizations of the people she encounters, particularly her co-workers, contributing to what I mentioned in the very beginning of this review: she overestimates how big her role should be in this story from the audience's perspective.Consequently, the book all too often veers into both mind-numbing mundanity and oversharing personal details. Her constant mention of her nameless, faceless "lover" in New York is a particularly egregious example: "In that world, I needed a lover, no matter how abstract, and that need drove me crazy some nights." ...Okay, so you went a couple months without getting laid? Cry me a river, most people have the occasional dry spell. Seriously, she was at PUST for 2-3 months with a break between semesters, and hasn't given any characterization of this person that would lead us to care. This is exactly the kind of pretentious melodrama the book increasingly falls into as the story progresses, despite its promising beginning -- and a great example of why it's not exactly journalistic in presentation. The closest journalistic genre I could grant her writing is that of "gonzo journalism", but Hunter Thompson would have skewered this book.Toward the end of her second and final semester at PUST, Ms. Kim spends time finagling a way to show her students a Harry Potter film. She creates considerable expectations in the reader regarding this event: she manipulates, she gets into a screaming match with her colleague, and eventually secures the right to show the film. The dramatic tension is built quite well. Now, how did the students react to the movie? I have no idea. Ms. Kim doesn't tell us. She says that she showed it to her students, but then she simply jumps forward to the next event without providing any details regarding her students' reactions. This is an abject narrative failure and is disappointing on so many levels, depriving the reader of such a valuable opportunity to find out how North Koreans would respond to outside media.My review has been harsh, certainly. I read a much better book about North Korea immediately before reading this one, so perhaps my expectations were too high. However, there were great parts of this book and initially it showed incredible promise. My biggest regret about this book, unfortunately, isn't its considerable wasted potential: it's that, by the nature of its very existence, publishing this subpar text has likely rendered it impossible for another writer to ever see the school and give us another perspective on what life is like there. Suki Kim's storytelling is at its best when she describes what she sees, hears, or remembers; it's at its worst when she describes her feelings.I'll give this book the grade that I know my journalism mentor, a kick-ass investigative journalist who has written excellent undercover exposés of her own, would have given Ms. Kim: "C-. Some good ideas here, but please rewrite and resubmit."

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    Well Written but could have been better
  

*by J***S on Reviewed in the United States on September 9, 2021*

Prior to this I had no knowledge of the author or any of her other works.  It is an interesting depiction of life within North Korea, and what is experienced by the students that were taught by her.  My thoughts on the book overall:- Strengths:  well written, informative, and enlightening as to what life in North Korea is really like.  It was also very interesting to read the author's description of the life that her young students had considering they were the elite of that society.- Weaknesses:  a drawback of the book was the author seemed to repeatedly inject herself and her own story into the narrative, including many references to romantic relationships left behind.  I found these detracted from the central thesis and story of the book.

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    Without some Background there are No Good Reviews
  

*by R***L on Reviewed in the United States on April 1, 2016*

This is a well written and captivating book about one person's longer term experience with a segment of North Korean culture.Had I not spent some time reading at least half a dozen previous books about North Korea, by escapees, journalists, and otherswith specific and long term ties to the nation/culture, I may not have understood where she was coming from, as it is clear manyof the snarky people giving their long winded reviews do not.  Many in these reviews seem to have the expectation that she woulddeliver a story and narrative from the standpoint of a free world, mostly American culture.  Her book triumphs in being able to take us through the looking glass to the mindset, near as she can, of their culture.  It is no wonder , as a few have said "she didnt seem to get to know the boys";  or  - "there is no individual personality coming out in the students"  - Hey, part of the message is, they don't know themselves,  and they had little if any opportunity to develop their own "individuality". NK is a puzzle, with many layers, and the author experienced one layerwithin the midst of a culture that reviews true throughout all the books I have read.  I find her references to her "life back home" a necessary counterpoint to the sucking vampire like energy she had to endure in such a repressive place for weeks on end.  This is no real reflection on her personally, it is just how it is there, and how it must feel to adjust to that mind blowingly different reality.  I would recommend this book to those interested in deepening their understanding of North Korea, while also recommending other books to round out the picture and validate her observations to a deeper level of reader understanding.

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