Geberit 111.798.00.1 Toilets and bidets

Very happy with my purchase -- was easy to install (as easy as tearing out part of a wall and reframing it can be). Paired it with a TOTO bowl. I have three more bathrooms to renovate over the next year or two, and will be doing all wall-hung moving forward, it's about as cool as a toilet can get.

This review is only for the carrier and installation for those that may be considering this type of toilet. It is not a review of the toilet itself or toilet operation. I have a separate review of the toilet itself. If you're interested in installation details, read on...but non detail-oriented people will lose interest. If you're a novice do-it-yourselfer, this may not be a project to take on. If you're a little more advanced, you'll be fine. I came from the electrical trades and have pretty extensive remodeling, electric, plumbing, tiling & flooring experience but have never installed one of these before - I did plenty of reading and planning....and it came out perfect. If you're going to hire someone to do it, make sure they're not the typical "I only like cookie-cutter jobs and don't want to learn anything new" type of plumber. Old dogs will resist and lazy ones will try to talk you out of it....If they do, get a new plumber because these are worth the effort. The person (or you) should be prepared to do plumbing as well as basic carpentry/framing. The bulk of the installation needs to be done while while walls are open. The final installation will be one of the last steps in the remodel, after the walls are finished and/or tiled. So if you're not installing it, have the plumber plan for a return trip. These are gaining popularity as time goes on, and most progressive plumbers would have no problems with this after doing a little reading. And if you're doing it yourself...dig in and read below to get an idea of what to expect. My situation involved a second-story bathroom complete gut, with no access to the plumbing from below. Plumbing was in-between floors, so it was more difficult than if you had access to it from a basement or during new construction. I had to open up a section of sub-floor just in front of the carrier. From there I had to re-route and navigate the 3" waste line around a pre-manufactured truss without cutting through it, all while working through a 24" x 24" opening (I could have made it bigger but the sub-floor was glued and nailed which makes for a more damaging removal). If you're not a pex guy (I prefer copper) the water feed requires some accurate pipe-routing and sweating work to land it just right (as with all sweat-work take your time and dry-fit it first). You will also have to frame around the carrier (I doubled-up for extra strength). Make sure you use the proper bolts (included) in all of the specified locations. Important Tip: Thoroughly read and re-read the height-setting directions. The carrier allows for various height settings for the bowl (typical is 15" or 16", but ADA or "comfort height" is 19" above the finished floor). You DO NOT set the carrier bolts to the desired bowl height. It's a bit more complicated than that. The carrier bolt height depends on the bowl you choose, as mounting holes vary from bowl to bowl. Once you finish the installation, you can't change the height, so you have to figure this out ahead of time. For accurate results, you'll need to know the brand and specific model of the bowl you'll use (or have it on-site). Open the bowl or download the spec sheet and review the mounting hole dimensions in relation to the rim. Then take that measurement and subtract that amount from the desired rim height to figure out the height of the carrier bolts. For example: If the dimension from the mounting holes to the top of your bowl rim is 2-1/2", subtract 2-1/2" from the desired height of your bowl and set the carrier bolts to that height - but don't forget...the seat will add nearly an inch and you'll also need to account for the finished floor height. The height you choose will be from the finished floor to the top of the seat in the down position, so take tile thickness and underlayment into consideration. Example: my bowl's mounting holes were 2 inches from the rim, so I set my carrier bolts at 15" above the rough floor. When finished, the bowl height (with the seat down) is 19" above the finished floor - just where we wanted it. But again, bowl models have their mounting holes in different locations and the specific model of bowl will affect the end bowl height. Think this through before setting the height and consider the variables...the carrier will be sitting on the base plate, so the measurement has to account for this - also account for whether tile is installed or will be installed. As I said, plan ahead and think of all the variables. * Make sure you mount the carrier perfectly level and plumb and securely tighten all bolts. This will affect the end results. I was concerned about creaking and squeaking as someone sat down, but we have none - it feels completely solid and secure. A big factor on the difficulty level is whether your particular situation is a renovation, new construction, your accessibility to the waste line and whether it's PVC or cast iron. And yes, I did use primer - I just applied it neatly so it didn't run outside the joints....and yes, I know the idea behind the purple color is to be visible - but my application was being done by me in my own home and wasn't being inspected, so it didn't need to be visible. As for cost - when you factor in all of the parts - even without labor, the cost of this is well beyond a standard floor-mount toilet. But if you're looking into this type of toilet, I'm sure there's a reason you want it. It does have its benefits (space-saving, ease of cleaning underneath, a modern look, etc.). When I do another wall-mount, I will use Gerberit again, as the installation turned out perfectly. I did a lot of research on the two main manufacturer's of these toilet carriers and chose Gerberit. The mechanics and valves inside were good quality and the framework was solid and well engineered. It has a 700 lb weight rating. For those that have not researched this too deeply yet, once installed all of the serviceable parts, valves, flush mechanism, etc. are accessible from the front flush panel without disturbing any part of the finished wall. I've heard those trying to talk people out of it say "if anything goes wrong you have to rip your wall open to fix it" - COMPLETELY FALSE. It was well thought-out. These have been in use in Europe for many years, they're only relatively new to the U.S. consumer. * Make sure you order the model specific to your wall (2x4 vs 2x6). Also keep in mind, you buy the "carrier" (this in-wall component) separately and have many models of toilet bowls to choose from. Geberit has an extensive list of compatible toilets from multiple manufacturers (Toto, Duravit, Kohler, etc.). You need to order the flush plate, toilet bowl and toilet seat separately as there are so many options for each. Update: It's been installed over 2 years in a daily-use bathroom. Still works perfectly - no issues whatsoever. Just make sure it's done right! Update: We recently remodeled our final bathroom and installed a second one of these. Combined with a raised off-the-floor vanity, these look great and so modern (photo with brown vanity). Here's the toilet we used: https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R1GCB3RMW1SLGL?ref=pf_ov_at_pdctrvw_srp NOTE: I purchased this item on Amazon for full price and have no affiliation to the seller. I try to write helpful, unbiased and insightful reviews because I also read reviews prior to making my own buying decisions. I notice many reviews lack helpful information, are not well written or give poor reviews based on not reading directions or failing to read the product details prior to purchasing. Writing valuable reviews helps pay it forward.

This product is amazing. They really have this down to a well engineered carrier system. This is my second system in a second bathroom remodel. It is easy to install but I do wish they would ship the drop ear that connects to the main supply as a push fitting. Sweating copper is a pain and not worth the hassle anymore with push fit technology. I end up going to buy a push fit drop ear anyway, my only complaint but that’s my choice and laziness I suppose. Definitely worth the money and I love the look and ease of cleaning around a wall hung toilet. Kudos to them.

it fit perfectly in the wall

First time using a Geberit product and it won’t be the last . Thorough instructions and a carrier that will last a lifetime no doubt. I never installed a wall mount toilet before but Geberit made it easy ! The quality of the flushing system and wall controls made our modern bathroom remodel fantastic ! If your looking for a powerful flush mount orb easy to install instructions look no further . I did buy the Fine Fixture wall mount toilet to mate with the Geberit carrier . Beautiful and more importantly it works awesome !